ELIMINATE DMP'S AND NUISANCE TAGS IN NEW YORK

[KMIZ]

HELLO, I AM TRYING TO GET IMPUT ON ELIMINATING DEER MANAGEMENT PERMITS AND NUISANCE TAGS IN NEW YORK. FOR THOSE OF YOU OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER IT WASN'T ALL THAT LONG AGO THAT WE HAD A VERY DECENT DEER HERD POPULATION IN NEW YORK. THE MID TO LATE 90'S WERE AN AWESOME TIME TO BE IN THE WOODS DEER HUNTING. THEN THE STATE CHANGED THE TAGS. BACK IN THE EARLY 90'S YOU COULD GET A BOW OR MUZZLE TAG, A RIFLE TAG AND IF YOU WERE LUCKY A SO. TIER DOE TAG. THREE DEER FOR ANY MAN WAS AND IS MORE THAN ENOUGH, NOW BECAUSE OF INSURANCE COMPANIES AND OUR OWN GREED AS HUNTERS WE CAN NOW SHOOT UP TO 8 DEER A SEASON.

WHAT ABOUT HOSE NUISANCE TAGS GIVEN TO FARMERS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE PROBLEM WITH THEIR LOSS OF CROPS IS FROM DEER. WHAT ABOUT THE OUT OF CONTROL POPULATION OF TURKEYS IN NEW YORK. THE TURKEYS DEVISTATE EVERYTHING THEY EAT. BESIDES IF THEY REALLY HAD A DEER PROBLEM THEN WHY DO THEY NEED TO SHOOT THE DEER AT NITE WITH A SPOTLITE???JUST LEGAL POACHING.

I KNOW THAT I WILL GET BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FEED BACK ON THIS SUBJECT BUT THAT'S OK. I HAVE 150 ACRES WITH MANY ACRES OF FOODPLOTS AND MANY HABITAAT IMPROVEMENTS AND THIS YEAR IS EVEN WORSE THAN LAST YEAR. MY PROBLEM IS MY NIEGHBORS LAND WHICH IS UNPOSTED HAS A FEW HUNTERS TAKING ANYTHING THAT MOVES. 20 DEER OFF FROM 30 ACRES =NOTHING LEFT TO PROCREATE. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T DONE THE MATH!!!!! 1 DOE IS WORTH 100 DEER IN 10 YEARS. MORE IF THEY HAVE TWINS OR TRIPLETS. LET'S NOT GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE IN THE SIXTIES WHEN BECAUSE OF DOE PERMITS WE DECIMATED THE DEER HERD IN NEW YORK. PLEASE LET'S THINK ABOUT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND NOT OUR BRAGGING RIGHTS.
I'M NEW TO THIS SITE BUT ABOUT DOIONG A POLL TO BE SENT TO DEC????

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[KMIZ]

I AM ACTUALLY SENDING THIS RESPONSE TO MYSELF TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY POST RIGHT SINCE I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVEN'T RECEIVED 1 RESPONSE TO MY ORIGIONAL POSTS. NYS HUNTERS, NO OPINION ON THE SUBJECT OR JUST WAITING TIL SEASON'S END TO FORM YOUR OPINION???WAITING FOR RESPONSES IN UPPER NY, KEVIN

[willy3584]

I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH YOU ON THIS , THE STATE GIVES OUT THESE PERMITS AND THEN ALLOWS THE FARMERS OR WHO EVER THEY WANT TO GIVE THEM TO TO HUNT UNTILL 11:00 AT NIGHT WITH THE AID OF 4 WHEELERS AND ARTIFICIAL LIGHTS, AND THEN THE STATE TURNS AROUND AND TELLS LICENSE BUYING SPORTSMEN THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE A DOE PERMIT BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH ISSUED FOR THEIR AREA BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF DEER !!!!! DUHHHHHHHHH.
IT IS A WIDLEY KNOW FACT THAT THESE PERMITS ARE HANDED OUT TO CERTAIN FARMERS AND A LOT OF FAVORITEISM IS USED TO DISTRIBUTE THEM.
MY IDEA IS THAT UNTILL ALL SPORTSMEN HUNTING IN A GIVEN AREA HAVE THE OPORTUNITY TO GET A DOE PERMIT WHICH THEY PAY FOR THAT THERE SHOULD BE NONE GIVEN TO ANYONE FOR THE SLAUGHTER THAT IS GOING ON BY THESE SO CALLED FARMERS.

[biggamefish]

I don't think we need to stop either. THe dec just needs to put money that is collected from licenses back into the outdoors. I think they screwed up majorly in the last couple of years giving out way to many doe permits and now are trying to correct it.
As for nuisence permits there are some farmer that need them and use them right. It is to bad that there are people who don't and give black eyes to the rest of the people. I was on another forum and they hit it on the head. THe farmers life depend on those crops and I would think if your life earnings depended on your crops you would look at it differently. In no way am I saying that they don't need to revamp the way they give out the nuicence permits. There is something definatly wrong with the way they do it now though.