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Yourhonor · by **Yourhonor** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:08 pm

Anyhow,

I'm looking into the sport of hunting and would like to know; what to use, how to use, when to use, and what is the best rifle for the job.. I'm looking to hunti deer and elk and would like a gun that could do both jobs.

deerhunter10pointer · by **deerhunter10pointer** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:34 pm

I suggest a 30-06. Its a great cailiber. How to use? Well take it to the fireing range and sight it in. Also if your not use to being around guns and hunting I suggest going to a hunter safety course. They should be able to help teach you all the safety in handling firearms safely. It also might be the law there so make sure to check all the firearm laws and hunting regs. California has pleanty of laws there.Good luck and hunt safe.

DocHolladay · by **DocHolladay** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:21 pm

I have to agree with everything deerhunter says. As for an actual rifle, there are several great companies to choose from. Remington, Wincheser, Weatherby, Savage, the list goes on. I would suggest to buy the best quality scope you can afford in multi-power(3-9, 4-12), and in my opinion a 40mm objective. Leupold is a very popular one. There is also Simmons, Bushnell, Burris, etc. As for when to use, preferably when the elk or deer is within range and with a clear shooting lane. Good luck.

Lower · by **Lower** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:39 am

300 Win Mag is another option that will allow you to hunt deer and much larger animal. My choice anyway. :oops:

Learn all you can before you go to the woods and dont shoot unless you know you can make the kill

gary c. · by **gary c.** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:03 pm

Talk to some friends, guys at work, ect. and find someone who hunts. They probably wouldn't mind taking you along and teaching you a few things.
Gary C.

Yourhonor · by **Yourhonor** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:03 pm

Ok,

I must say I do have years of shooting experience. Long rang, small arms, machine guns, 50 cal, and too many to list. I just wanted an unbiased opinion.

So, I spoke with a gentlemen from the local gun store and he more or less sold me on a Remmington. Not sure what model or what, etc. I asked him for a list of models he said he could get about any I wanted just let him know. He mentioned a 30 06

What does everyone think?

Airborneguy · by **Airborneguy** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:13 pm

My Remington 700 30-06 is my favorite rifle out of the ones I have, and I have another Remington 700 in 300 Ultra Mag. The 30-06 is great because it is so versatile.

You will hear a million answers from everyone you speak to. Best advice, since you know a lot about weapons (sounds like you were in the military), then go out and shoot some of these weapons and see which one you like the best. It took me a long time to feel totally comfortable with my weapons, but now I am, 100%. Shooting these rifles is much different than shooting in the military. Your background will help of course, but you will have to learn all over again.

Good luck, high powered rifles are great, but hunting is even better!

Yourhonor · by **Yourhonor** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:04 pm

Yes, I do have a military background.

Anyhow, next question is how do I read these specifications to determine if it is a 30 06? I was reading a .270 ?

Airborneguy · by **Airborneguy** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:35 pm

That is a .270 caliber rifle, like an M-16is .223. If it is a 30-06, it was say that.

For most rifles, there is a model number, and then a caliber. Models come in many different calibers. The Winchester Model 70, the Remington 700, and the Marlin 336 are a few examples of models. Then you narrow it down:

Remington 700 30-06
Remington 700 .300 Ultra Mag

See what I mean? Seems complicated, but you'll get used to it fairly quick.

Yourhonor · by **Yourhonor** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:05 pm

Ok,

Well, I like the remington 700 series and the winchester 710 but can I order it with a caliber?

artjaggard · by **artjaggard** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:37 am

Welcome Yourhonor!
You'll get a lot of help around here and we look forward to your wisdom as well! You can order them with the caliber you want, in fact you will have to. I'm a 30-06 guy myself. I was always suspicious that a 270 wouldn't do as well on elk. It sure is fine for whitetail though. And I think bigger is automatically better, (which I know isn't true, but)...
Art

quigleysharps4570 · by **quigleysharps4570** » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:41 am

I'd go the 30-06...variety of bullets to choose from and can get a box of those in any Mom&Pops store in the country. Also tons of surplus ammo floating around cheap for plinking. Rifle...that would be whatever you take a fancy to. Most factory rifles are decent enough for the job you'll be asking of it. Get out and get all the shooting in you can with your new set-up when you get it. Shoot at a variety of different ranges, 50yds...100yds...200yds, etc. When you do get to hunt...keep your shooting within the ranges you practiced at. A rangefinder is another good investment. Most can't judge range for squat. A good example I'll always remember...a friend of mine and his son were shooting one day (his boy was fresh out of the marines) we were guessing on the range of a stump. The young man was claiming 1000yds...swore to be damned it was a 1000.

I'd guessed 800...900 tops. Rangefinder said 750.

JonnySweden · by **JonnySweden** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:17 pm

Only advice i can give you are one simple rule...atleast 40-60%...40% of the money on the rifle rest on the scoop..caliber brand etc etc...if there is a 30-06 .308 or whaterver is just a matter what you like..they all shoot the same remington winchester etc.etc ..some millimeter here or there meens nothing for practical hunting...But scoops....is somthing else...i can only recomend a few brands Zeiss..scmitdt&Bender or swarovski...Maybe Helia...You cant finde one product where prize and quality goes more hand in hand than it does on scoops...but ...as always...these are strictly my own personal thoughts :wink:

...and...one more thing...sorry for my poor english...best regards from Sweden :-)

..Jonny

artjaggard · by **artjaggard** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 8:13 pm

Hey Sweden!
No apology needed. Your English is probably as good as some of ours and your Swedish is light years ahead of anything I could produce. I had a friend who used to say Haymorgidau to me. That has to be spelled wrong... I think it meant good morning, but he could have been calling me an idiot for all I know.

Art

JonnySweden · by **JonnySweden** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:37 am

Hej...Godmorgon Art...there you have it....Idiot spells idiot in swedish and sounds the same....so not easy to trick ya there ..LOL...Jonny

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