Home protection.What do you use?

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

[Bowhunters]

Mossberg 8shot 12gau. pump in the hall closet.

Baretta 92FS in the bedroom.

[DouglasSpear]

20 ga. Mossberg shotty under the bed, .40 S&W M&P compact in night stand, flip knife under the bed mattress, and Ka-BAR in the closet.

[NYBuckhunter]

SKS, 20 gauge and 12 gauge in the bedroom, Springfield XD40 within reach most of the time (under seat in car, nightstand, etc), Louieville Slugger in the living room.

[nissen121523]

My foot and a boot.

[Brow Tine]

If they make it past the trip wires in the yard...
Then a Remington 1100 with goose loads.
When I get my new Mini-14 that will be the primary home defense system.

[ironhead]

Depends on what area of the house we are talking about. Bedroom Rem 1100 3" no plug under bed and .25 auto. Office is Mossburg 835 Super Mag also no plug,,,living room 16 ga Ted Williams, family room marlin 336 and colt .32, garage is God have mercy on their souls because thats where it gets really ugly.

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

Sounds like we are almost prepared to defend our homes.

[NYBuckhunter]

You reminded me brow, theres the Mini 14 and 30/30 in the bedroom too lol

[Brow Tine]

Nice NYB....I cant wait to get my hands on that Mini.
30/30 will stop them on the approach in the driveway

[NYBuckhunter]

I do have to admit though, the Mini and 30/30 are not sitting there loaded, niether is the 12 guage for that matter. The rest are though, Coppersolid sabots in the 20 gague, FMJs in the SKS, Hydrashoks in the 40.

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

All of mine arent loaded either,only 10 or 12 of em,the Sigs couple scatterguns and ALL the assualt rifles.

[ironhead]

I have no rounds chambered,,but the mags are full. Keep in mind before people go nuts,,,my kids are grown and i have no little ones that come over. Just me and wife, and yes she knows the rules. If kids come over,,,all mags are emptied and weapons locked up in a safe.

[Brow Tine]

Nope I have little ones as well so no rounds loaded here.

[NYBuckhunter]

My daughter is only at my house part time and she knows better than to touch any guns. I have been drilling into her head that she is never to touch a gun unless I tell her she can, and that if she sees one, she is to tell an adult. I lock the SKS and 20 up when shes around, but the XD is always ready to go, I just make sure its out of her reach.

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

I dont keep a round chambered in anything except my carry piece.Its just my wife and me,but when thwe litle ones are here every thing is out of reach

[Brow Tine]

My wife does not like handguns but has no problems with long guns so I have to respect that.
(although I have always wanted a nice Sig or XD..Sorry I digressed)

If I was rich I would love to have some type of small gun cabinet in the bedroom that has a biometric reader on it…so I could just walk or crawl up to it put my hand in the reader and have it pop open.

locked, loaded and ready to go.

[ironhead]

I bet if you talked to the wife and expressed your wishes and precautions,and that it would make you feel safer (WINK WINK) she would likely go for it.

[oldzimm]

I have no little ones around the house, so I keep a 357 handy and a pit bull in the house, never needed to use either for home defense but the pit bull keeps the cats inline. (with a little coaxing from me)

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

Who keeps you in line?Yhe pit bull?

[oldzimm]

My wife thinks she keeps me inline, or at least I let her think it. You know it is so much easier writing this when she isn't here looking over my shoulder. oops got to go!

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

Now we know who the REAL BOSS is at your house.

[oldzimm]

Now you know the truth, please don't tell anyone.
Like most women my wife has a way of getting her way, I'm sure most of you guys heard this quote "If you buy or do that, you won't be getting this". Since this is a family forum I won't go any farther then that.

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

I hear ya.It goes with whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine.

[DouglasSpear]

Well, add this to my arsenal...just ordered it today from Classic Arms (http://classicarms.us)

Bulgarian SSR 85BPG AK-47

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

That is sweet Doug.have to let us know how it does.

[JakeO]

old school single shot 16 gauge savage. with four slugs in the bullet band, and one in the chamber.

[oldzimm]

To tell you the truth JakeO, yes I do keep a loaded 357 with me most of the time 24/7, I think the best home defense is a shotgun loaded with buckshot because your aim doesn't have to be true. When the poop hits the fan you won't have time for a steady 10 ring shot, save the slugs for the deer.

[ironhead]

Number 7-8 birdshot is highly recommended for anybody that is not combat trained, due to the spread of the shot pattern, the general inability of the shot to penetrate walls and injure bystanders, and recoil for follow up shots. Most people will panic and not take the best shot possible, hence the wider spread of the birdshot to clear a hallway or room. I personally keep #4 turkey loads ready to rock and roll in all my shotguns.

[oldzimm]

That is a good idea ironhead, I think I will go for the #4 turkey loads, at close range it wouldn't be a happy day for the intruder.
I seen at close range what #6 shot can do to a coyote at 5 yards, sweet.

[Bucknut]

Although I have much to choose from, only one isn't under lock and key at the homestead. The Glock 27, in 40SW.
Easy to hide, quick to grab, and enough balls to stop 'em. Not to mention the large capacity. My ol' pal!

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

Nice carry piece.

[ironhead]

I love the .40 cal.

[JakeO]

To tell you the truth JakeO, yes I do keep a loaded 357 with me most of the time 24/7, I think the best home defense is a shotgun loaded with buckshot because your aim doesn't have to be true. When the poop hits the fan you won't have time for a steady 10 ring shot, save the slugs for the deer.

i agree old zimm, although buckshot for a 16ga is not the easiest thing to find at wallyworld. i think between me, and my dad with his .30 .30 we can hold it down tho.

[Tenpoint]

Call me crazy, I use a couple good locks on the doors. The guns are in the safe all the time.

Tenpoint

[JakeO]

yea, but tenpoint thats no fun...

[Bowhunters]

yea, but tenpoint thats no fun...

Especially when you wake up and someone has already gotten into your house because then its too late to go to the gunsafe.

But the bigger thing to consider is if you have kids in the home that are old enough to find a hidden gun and then there's always a possibility they may not realise its not a toy, thats when I don't argue with Tenpoint or anyone's thoughts on keeping guns in a safe.

While a small number of kids learn through hunting, gun safety courses and father/son/daughter talks and they realize that guns/ bows/ muzzleloaders aren't a toy the vast majority of kids out there are ignorant, immature or irresponsible or some of all three and in that situation guns and kids don't mix.

Even after long talks and you are convinced that your son or daughter 'gets it' there's always the possibilty that another kid from school that your son or daughter brings into your home does't get it and if they get their hands on a gun they could point it at your kid or someone else and then nothing but bad things can happen.

[JakeO]

Yes sir!

[Tenpoint]

Around here, you have better odds of getting hit by lightning than to be the victim of a home invasion.

Tenpoint

[rbc714]

Plain jane Rem 870 with pistol grip, 18 " open bore barrel, 7shot ext.

Loaded with 2 low brass 71/2 bird shot, One in the chamber and one behind it in the tube, 2 #6 nitro mag duck loads,2 #4 buck, and finally 2 rifled slugs.

This way if an attack continues I am able to escalate the fire power.

This shorty shotty is hidden on a home made rack behind the head board
of my bed just above my head(hey Im a poet and didnt know it hehe). Although well hidden it is readily accessible in case of trouble.

I installed a high intensity light with strobe and a high energy green laser, so what you see is what you get( without a stock its really the only way to aim the thing).

[ironhead]

In close quarters, i will still take a short shotgun over handgun personally. I am pretty proficient with a handgun and have several,,but i belive in putting someone down,,dont give them the opportunity to get up. Firepower is good. Besides that the wife can shoot the shotguns,,she does not like handguns.

[warlocke]

sorry i know its an old thread but on my night stand i have a taurus 1911 at night.

not to mention knives throughout the house, working on getting a shotgun tho.

[Kaiser Hirsch]

Ok...I gotta ask.... You guys have all the guns and ammo.... and I know that if I ask would you shoot and intruder....you all say yes. But studies show that only approx. 18% of American citizens will actually use a firearm in self defense. So....what would you actually do??? I wanna know.
KH.

[Bowhunters]

Ok...I gotta ask.... You guys have all the guns and ammo.... and I know that if I ask would you shoot and intruder....you all say yes. But studies show that only approx. 18% of American citizens will actually use a firearm in self defense. So....what would you actually do??? I wanna know.KH.

For some here that could be a valid point but at least some of us here are ex military and have been in combat situations or at least trained for it and some of us here know what it means to be shot at and know what it means to shoot at someone, its not that you want to shoot people but you realise that you have to do it because they are trying to kill you.

One thing you need to consider in that 18% is that in the civilian world that includes a lot of people that only shoot a weapon maybe once a year at most and their home protection weapon sits drawing dust the rest of the year and those numbers include some 70-90 year old men and little old ladies, and people that have no legitimate reason to own a weapon because they would probably shoot a family member or the dog or cat in the dark at night thinking it was a burglar.

The truth is nobody knows exactly how they will react until they have that first time in a situation when you know someone is trying to kill you, also every situation is different, very few people that practice at the range know what it means to shoot at someone or return fire when shot at in the dark when you know you are being attacked in some way.

Still though even untrained people often manage to get by, I've read in the local newspaper here occasionally where someone holds a burglar/robber etc. at gunpoint until the police arrived and also in each issue of the NRA's magazines they post articles in them from other newspapers where someone stopped a robber or rapist, etc. with a gun and either shot them in self defense or held them until the police showed up and made an arrest so despite what the antigunners say about people being inept people do successfully defend themselves.

[ironhead]

I have been damn close to being in the situation,,,the person who got on my back porch had a quick change of reasoning when the 3 1/2" #4 turkey loads kicked into the chamber,,,if the last door wouldve opened,,,you better bet your paycheck i wouldve (and WILL shoot) without hesitation, and there will be no aim to maim.

[RICHARDCatdaddy]

Well first let me say this.Anyone who says they could shoot someone with out thinking about it and would have no ill feelings afterwards has never been in a shooting situation.As a combat vet I thought the same thing.Shooting someone is not as easy as people think.Afterwards,in my case i was violently sick for 2 days after i realized i had taken someones life,even though his intent was to turn out my lights.It dont get easier to line someone up and squeeze the trigger.The mental aspect is a whole other deal because you cant unkill someone and you live with this every single day.i still have some problems because of it and I was an Army Ranger Sniper for 4 combat tours.I know what it feels to take another persons life,you dont do it and have no after effects,i dont care who you are or think you are,it dont happen folks.

[Bowhunters]

Well first let me say this.Anyone who says they could shoot someone with out thinking about it and would have no ill feelings afterwards has never been in a shooting situation.As a combat vet I thought the same thing.Shooting someone is not as easy as people think.Afterwards,in my case i was violently sick for 2 days after i realized i had taken someones life,even though his intent was to turn out my lights.It dont get easier to line someone up and squeeze the trigger.The mental aspect is a whole other deal because you cant unkill someone and you live with this every single day.i still have some problems because of it and I was an Army Ranger Sniper for 4 combat tours.I know what it feels to take another persons life,you dont do it and have no after effects,i dont care who you are or think you are,it dont happen folks.

I agree and I would add that anyone that said that it didn't bother them or they ended up enjoying it are the ones you don't walk from but run away and stay away from.

[oldzimm]

I agree with RICHARDCatdaddy, to take a life is something one must live with the rest of their life. I sooner have to live with that then the other option (dead). If anyone is unfortunate to be in that situation, you must be prepared to make that decision in a split second, either they live or you die.

[DouglasSpear]

Well first let me say this.Anyone who says they could shoot someone with out thinking about it and would have no ill feelings afterwards has never been in a shooting situation.As a combat vet I thought the same thing.Shooting someone is not as easy as people think.Afterwards,in my case i was violently sick for 2 days after i realized i had taken someones life,even though his intent was to turn out my lights.It dont get easier to line someone up and squeeze the trigger.The mental aspect is a whole other deal because you cant unkill someone and you live with this every single day.i still have some problems because of it and I was an Army Ranger Sniper for 4 combat tours.I know what it feels to take another persons life,you dont do it and have no after effects,i dont care who you are or think you are,it dont happen folks.

I agree and I would add that anyone that said that it didn't bother them or they ended up enjoying it are the ones you don't walk from but run away and stay away from.

It's something that is never enjoyed or easy to do, but having a clear conscience helps becaused I'll be damned if they kill me first. It's a hard sacrifice because eliminating the enemy on the battlefield means creating one within. To put it best, as mentioned in the movie Jarhead: "For most problems the Marine is issued a solution. If ill, go to sickbay. If wounded, call a Corpsman. If dead, report to graves registration. If losing his mind, however, no standard solution exists."

[KwackWacker]

Ironhead brought up a good point. Most criminals committing a home invasion are not carrying a gun and are there only to make a quick buck. Those types of criminals would only need to hear a shell being pumped into the chamber to get out of the house. I have a pistol I keep by my bed stored in a fingerprint safe. I keep it loaded and ready to go, however, I haven't felt the need to even take it out of the safe even once other than to shoot it or clean it. Hopefully I never will, but if the time comes where I feel my family is threatened you can be damn sure I won't have any qualms about using it on an intruder and I'll deal with the guilt later. I believe the guilt of injuing or killing another person would be offset, at least somewhat, by the fact that I was protecting my family.