Moose Management - How easy is it?

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Moose Management - How easy is it?

Postby NealMz » Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:58 pm

Recently our moose tag permits were cut here in Maine. The main reason was to control the populations. They wanted to raise the population in one area, while attembing to curb them in others. They also mention that change in habitat and lungworm and winter tick problems are causing the moose to stray into new areas.

Is this really management? Considering how active and mobile moose are in the first place, and now that they're even more mobile due to their changing conditions...how the heck can you manage the population in particular areas when they shift so much? :?:

I'd appreciate any feedback on this.
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Postby Butch » Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:18 pm

That's an interesting point, I never thought of that. Considering their range, how would you define "an area"?
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Postby NealMz » Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:27 pm

Exactly!
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Postby MinnDak » Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:00 pm

We actually have some moose that don't move around much believe it or not. They hold about 3/4 mile from our farm and can be found within the same section most of the year. Interesting why some moose roam aimlessly and some don't much at all.
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Postby Rattlin' » Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:06 am

Like any animal moose will move dependant on the habitat, enviroment, etc. However they are very much home bodies when they have the essentials. They may leave an area for one reason only to return when the area is suited. Against popular belief they are very adaptable creatures, most think forest only for homes for moose but as long as they have some cover, water and food they will live quite fine. We have an influx in the farmlands of moose here in Saskatchewan,Canada and many reasons have been suggested why they came and established their. For a number of years these areas where no hunting, but the moose have flourished and cause a pile of problems to croplands, as such many are open to a regular or draw season for moose to curve the population. Some of these areas are far removed from the forest areas and it is really weird to push a 50" bull moose out of small willow stand but they have adapted and flourished in these new (otherwise unnormal) areas. Just proving that what was once thought of a solitude only creature may in fact be changing.

Management of moose is a tough egg to crack as they are susceptible to disease, over hunting, etc. I often criticize our DNR on how they handle situation with regards to moose but I think it is simply out of their control most of the time. They can only try to protect certain portion while not hampering the sportsman or moose population as a whole. It is not anything like whitetails which have a high density, survival rate and more immune to disease. I am not saying the DNR make mistakes they do, but they have a very limited window and data on how to sustain/control moose population through hunting as one year they could be over run with moose and the next ticks, forest fires, etc can cause a serious shortfall. Since the season and quota's are often set well before the final results may be known, they must operate on a fly by the seat of their pants scenerio and just hopefully it works out for them. :roll:
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Postby GILLY » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:52 am

MinnDak wrote:We actually have some moose that don't move around much believe it or not. They hold about 3/4 mile from our farm and can be found within the same section most of the year. Interesting why some moose roam aimlessly and some don't much at all.


Here to, I see the same moose(plural) over and over within the same couple of 1/4 sections, my thinking is that if the feed is good, why move. Like I mentioned in an other post we haaad a good wet summer, meaning, an abundance of feed and water.............just a thought
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Postby yellodog1 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:57 pm

I dont really think Moose "migrate" to new areas. I think they will move as habitat becomes better or becomes degraded.

Populations rise and fall and so does habitat. Once an area is overbrowsed, the moose will move to an area thats better suited. Keeping hunter pressure down in an area that is suited for moose, will allow those in the area to survive, until the carrying capacity of the land is reached.
This is when controlled hunting is needed.
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Postby CaM76 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:40 am

I beleave from personal experience that bulls tend the "roam" more, cows however (espeacailly cows with calfs) ten to stick more an more confined area. I have seen cows and cow/calf combos repeatedly wonder into my stand area durning the course of a one week hunt, needless to say, it always seemed to be when i DIDN'T have a cow tag, where as for the bulls, I've never seen the same one twice to my knowlage. granted if spooked they my well run untill they hit the next county, but for the most part they are to damned curious to spook that badly.

As for the tick infestation, well that combined with a cold winter will decimate the moose population.

The moose can't stand having the ticks on them and will scratch untill they are ride of them, unfortunetly for the moose in order to get ride of them that same coat of fur that keeps the nice and warm over the winter provides protection for the tick against the moose trying to remove it, so for the tick to go the hair has to go too. I'm sure you can see where this is going. The long and the short is the Moose rub and scratch there fur of to get rid of the tick, then , when winter comes they freeze to death.

This same problem went through where I used to hunt moose in Ontario. basicly the completely shut the hunt down for 5 years, and now are just starting to reopen it, but the gruop sizes to get a guarrenteed tag is like 17 hunter on one bull tag.

Hope that helps you out a little.
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Postby Tony204ing » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:30 am

Wow!!Me being from Delaware i dont know much about moose.Those are some pretty interesting facts.I was in Maine last winter shooting coyotes and seen a calf that they got a hold of. Is that something that takes a big toll on them as well?
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Postby burhuntin. » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:10 am

They stopped the cow permits in eustis ME this year because of the 300 inch winter last year. if you look at the charts only like 5% of the bulls are even close to mature. i looked, there was ONE bull that was over 900 and like 3 others of the 70 or 80 moose on the list that were over 750. the rest were in the 600's meaning that they were only 2 1/2 year old bulls, IF that.

the bulls rut so hard that they loose all there fat and cant survive a winter as harsh as that one.

the deer the same thing. its been bucks only up there for like 3 years.
Maine.
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Deer.
Moose.

get some.
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Postby Bowhunters » Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:37 pm

We actually had a young bull moose show up down here in Kansas a couple summers ago, talk about being mobile. LOL

It was tracked by the different state Fish and Game agencies all the way down here from Canada, it hung around in Kansas for a couple weeks and then started heading back north.
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Postby ironhead » Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:14 am

LOL,,,it was in KANSAS,,,who could blame it for leaving,,,just kidding.
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