PSE Omen Bow

[silvergts1998]

Anyone know of anything faster? 366 IBO!

I know PSE is quality but not sure of other brands. Any suggestions to look at?

On the PSE Omen, there's some talk about the limbs being small and unforgiving? What do they mean by this?

I am gearing up for Sept 9 when bow season opens up! LOL! I think I am going to buy this bow if its the best one out there. I want something fast!

Here's the description.


From its inception, the PSE X Force™ set a new standard for exceptional performance and smooth operation. The fact that our competition is now incorporating our technology into their bows only proves what we have been saying all along. Unfortunately for them, we continue to lead the pack with the NEW X Force™ Omen™. With an IBO rating of an amazing 366 fps, the X Force™ Omen™ is the fastest, most efficient bow ever produced. It makes you wonder, who’s chasing whom?

SPECIFICATIONS
Axle-to-axle: 33-1/2"
Brace Height: 5-1/2"
IBO Speed: 366-358 fps
Let-off: 70% - 75%
Mass Weight: 4.2 lbs


Model Price
Treestand Camo Right Hand 70 lbs 949.99
Treestand Camo Right Hand 60 lbs 949.99
Treestand Camo Left Hand 60 lbs 949.99
Treestand Camo Left Hand 70 lbs 949.99

[Bowhunters]

I don't know anything about the Omen but I would be as equally worried about how much noise a bow creates as I would worry about it being one of the fastest.

Even on the fastest bow, if its noisy a deer can still jump the string enough to possibly cause a poor shot at short range and a miss at longer ranges.

From the reviews i've read the Bowtech Admiral is the quietest bow on the market, it comes with vibration dampening and noise prevention built into the bow and from the reviews its fast but vibration free and whisper quiet shooting right out of the factory box, not sure about their other models.

I have a PSE bow so i'm not a person that is just talking about how great their bow is.

The only thing I don't like about Bowtech Admiral is they are pricey but I would definitely consider shooting one at a bow shop if possible.

[NYBuckhunter]

IBO speed doesnt really mean much to me. Once you set it up for hunting, you will never see those speeds anyway. Id rather have a very quiet shooting bow than anything, and dropping a grand on a bow is just not my style.

[silvergts1998]

IBO speed doesnt really mean much to me. Once you set it up for hunting, you will never see those speeds anyway. Id rather have a very quiet shooting bow than anything, and dropping a grand on a bow is just not my style.

What do you mean that IBO speed doesn't mean much? I figured the faster the bow the better. If the above bow can be made to be quiet and if it reduces the IBO speed to 340 I would think that would be good.

The draw weight of a bow will make it quicker also right?

One thing about bowtech I like is that they are not using c-clips on the ends of the bow limb. My PSE that i just bought..the c-clip fell off and didn't realize it until I happened to look at it. It could have been bad if I didn't catch it. simple fix. I just put a new one on.

Any other suggestion on bow set up? The Bowtech looks attractive, but the IBO seems a little slow.

[Bowhunters]

NY is correct, if all you want to do is shoot targets competitively then you won't care if its noisy or vibrates some or kicks in your hand if its super fast and super accurate but as a hunter all those things (especially noise) can mean wounded or missed deer, bear or elk etc. so they do matter.

IBO is the speed they get from a mechanicaly fired bow at the factory with nothing added on it, no vibration dampners, no noise dampners, no peep site or aids added and its even fired from a machine to take out the posibility of any human interferance like torqueing of the riser or anything that can reduce speed. Its just the naked bow that is cranked up to maximum speed.

All vibration dampening or hand kick dampening, noise dampening, peep sites, etc. etc. etc. all will slow down a bows speed and thats why IBO doen't mean a lot to a hunter because you want and need all those things added to help you be a successful and ethical hunter.

One final point is that on some of the very fastest bows even after the vibration and noise dampening has been added by the owner or bow shop the bow will still be very noisy or vibrate badly when released and the bow shop may feel the only recorse is that the bow needs to be backed off on its speed to reduce those bad things to make it work for hunting so all that IBO stuff can become meaningless.

And yes reducing or increasing the draw weight does affect arrow speed.

[silvergts1998]

point well taken!

Still got a lot to learn.

[DocHolladay]

The PSE X-Force is very quiet and wouldnt expect anything less with the Omen. I just dont see spending $950 on a bare bow!!! I have looked at the new X-Force with similar cams as the Omen. They are VERY AGGRESSIVE!! I was pulling our PSE Reps bow set at 63lb. It felt like 70lb. I personally dont like the new cams, to hard to pull. My buddy's bow is set at 70lb and he had a hard time getting it back.

[NYBuckhunter]

If you want to get a better idea of what the true speed of a bow is, you should be looking at ABO instead of IBO. Bowhunters described most of it, but one really big thing they do to get IBO is to shoot 150 grain arrows, not even close to a real world hunting setup. Once you get up to the really high speeds, you will not want to shoot fixed blades either, mechanicals are almost a must for those speeds.

[DocHolladay]

I dont know of a bow that can shoot a 150gr arrow without busting a limb, even the ones that claim that they can be dry fired 1000's of times. That is just to light. I have looked at the arrows that HCA used to sell and even with my setup, the lightest arrow I could get was in the 250-270gr area. That is an injury waiting to happen.

AMO setup is 30" draw, 70lb draw weight and a 540gr arrow.

IBO setup is 30" draw, 70lb draw weight and a 350gr arrow.

Most bows wont shoot at AMO or IBO speeds, but somewhere inbetween. AMO does give a more realistic speed though.

[KwackWacker]

Forget about speed IBO or AMO for a hunting bow. It just doesn't make that much of a difference. I would take a bow that shot 200 fps and felt good to me over one that shot 350 fps but that I was uncomfortable shooting. Reason being is that if you are more comfortable shooting a slower bow then you will shoot it more accurately and more consistently which makes it a more deadly bow. It's not a question of how fast or slow and how much energy the arrow carries, it's about how deadly that bow is in your hands. Native Americans were killing animals with rough Osage wood bows and flint broadheads centuries before you or I were around. They were skilled marksmen and hunters.

[nissen121523]

I wish i had the knowledge you all have before i purchased my first bow. Even moreso, i wish i had the money to do it all over again lol.

[dhf92]

idk but is a browning adrenaline worth paying 350 for with release whisker arrow holder quiver stabelizer truglo sites and new string

[Bowhunters]

idk but is a browning adrenaline worth paying 350 for with release whisker arrow holder quiver stabelizer truglo sites and new string

Welcome to the DHC forum.

The Adrenaline line of bows are getting old and all but one, the (Micro HX) has been discontinued from the line and are cheap when you find them, the Micro HX still in production retails for around $350 new but the old discontinued models would only go for $200-250 brand new if you can find one. The Micro HX is a small bow for youth or women with a 50lb draw maximum.

Since you mentioned the gear and new string its safe to assume its a used Adrenaline and probably one of the models that has been discontinued and if the owner has had it a couple years or even longer I wouldn't hand over money without having it looked at by a bow shop, for your own safety you have to assume that its probably been dropped at least once and its even possible it was dropped out of a treestand onto rocks or frozen ground below, it doesn't happen often but it does happen.

So even if it looks to be in really good shape and with a bunch of extras you listed its probably not worth but around $175-200 considering its a discontinued model and can be bought for around $250 if you could find a brand new one.

I certainly wouldn't hand over any money until its been looked over by a technician at a good bow shop and let them apraise it based on wear and if they find it needs repair or parts like cables, Cam, etc. Also for safety to make sure that the bow is mechanically sound and will work for you and your draw length.

If the person has had it for a few years and its seen a lot of shooting and they are persistent in wanting crazy high money for it I would walk away.

Good Luck!

[dhf92]

thank you sir appreciate it

[silvergts1998]

I am thinking I am going with the Bowtech Admiral. Anyone has any experience with 82nd airborne bow from bowtech? That one is the fastest they sell. I have not read anything bad about the admiral yet. Seems like a solid bow.