Terrorist's now read miranda rights

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Terrorist's now read miranda rights

Postby crosscountry2 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:49 pm

So in Afghanistan terrorists are now read the Miranda warning as established in Miranda vs. Arizona.

Terrorists Now Getting Miranda Warning

Via Drudge and The Weekly Standard, terrorists are now getting Miranda read to them:

But Republicans on Capitol Hill are not happy. “When they mirandize a suspect, the first thing they do is warn them that they have the 'right to remain silent,’” says Representative Pete Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. “It would seem the last thing we want is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or any other al-Qaeda terrorist to remain silent. Our focus should be on preventing the next attack, not giving radical jihadists a new tactic to resist interrogation--lawyering up.”

According to Mike Rogers, that is precisely what some human rights organizations are advising detainees to do. “The International Red Cross, when they go into these detention facilities, has now started telling people – ‘Take the option. You want a lawyer.’”

Rogers adds: “The problem is you take that guy at three in the morning off of a compound right outside of Kabul where he’s building bomb materials to kill US soldiers, and read him his rights by four, and the Red Cross is saying take the lawyer – you have now created quite a confusion amongst the FBI, the CIA and the United States military. And confusion is the last thing you want in a combat zone.”

One thing is clear, though. A detainee who is not talking cannot provide information about future attacks. Had Khalid Sheikh Mohammad had a lawyer, Tenet wrote, “I am confident that we would have obtained none of the information he had in his head about imminent threats against the American people.”

This is what happens when DOJ gets involved with what should be military jurisdiction. This is exactly the sort of thing that led us to previous terror attacks - when we start treating terrorists like your common street criminal we open ourselves up to events like 9/11.

And again, this is EXACTLY why Gitmo should remain open; sometimes in war you simply have to detain people. They don't all GET trials. It's ugly, but it's true.

And so now you have soldiers who will have to second guess their actions, and how they will be received on the front pages of the New York Times, before they act. Sometimes they don't have the luxury of those moments of deliberation. Sometimes the bad guys just have to be captured and detained so that they don't do harm to more people.

The Miranda warning:

You have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions. Do you understand?

Anything you do say may be used against you in a court of law. Do you understand?

You have the right to consult an attorney before speaking to the police and to have an attorney present during questioning now or in the future. Do you understand?

If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. Do you understand?

If you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present you will still have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to an attorney. Do you understand?

Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?

Terrorists are jumping with glee all over the planet.


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*Just want to know what you guys think about this. I'm a member of a forum that....well... tends to lean liberal even though it has nothing to do with politics and well...... they basically ripped me a new arse hole on the subject. It was basically ten against me. (I'm really conservative)
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Postby RICHARDCatdaddy » Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:41 am

The ONLY rights a terrorist needs is ......they need to stand still while I get them RIGHT in my SIGHTS.
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Postby oldzimm » Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:24 pm

The only right a terrorist has is the right to die, standing or running it don't matter, just shoot the S.O.B.'s.
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Postby crosscountry2 » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:45 pm

Ya that's basically what i said. I know some of you guys are former military. Wouldn't this just make combat more confusing? What are your takes on the confusion this would do in combat, or anything else?
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Postby RICHARDCatdaddy » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:28 pm

Confusion in combat?brother thats just how it is.The best laid plans never go according to plan cause the bad guys wont cooperate with your plan.They have a totally different plan than yours.Been there,been confused by that.
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Postby Bucknut » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:08 pm

look at the big picture.....under this administration, the terrorists have received more rights, and we the people, have had our rights revoked. They run our banks, they run our autos, they regulate our tobacco, they have raised taxes on everything, they will soon run our medical system, and they live to take the 2nd ammendment from us. This is only in the first 1/2 year of this GOV. There is more to come. Big Gov isn't the answear. We are in serious trouble of loosing our identity as Americans. I for one am sick of it!!!
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Postby RICHARDCatdaddy » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:44 am

Oaky,lets get one thing straight now.Everyone from the mied east isnt a terrorist.If they are here LEGALLY I have no problem with them earning a living.But if they arent here legal,like a bunch of spanish folks,catch em up ship em back.You cant group everyone from a certian country as terrorists.Thats like saying every GermAN IS a Nazi and thats no true.Care should be used before making a blanket statement like that.I have been there,I kniw what happens and how things operate,their country dont run like ours,You have to consider these people have been invlved in wars dating back since the start of time almost.All they know is war,their system of law and Govt.inst like ours is.So how can you condem an entire race because some arwe terrorists?
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Postby oldzimm » Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:06 pm

Richard is right, you can't condemn them all because they are from the Mideast. In Iraq I met a lot of good Iraqis, the problem is you can't tell the good ones from the terrorist. I was a Platoon Sergeant in Iraq and I had one of my soldiers ask me "how can you tell which one's are terrorist", I said it is the one that is trying to kill you.
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