tunning problems please help!

[lonewolf327]

hi everone in deer hunting community!
ok, now for my question?
i have been spending some tome trying to fine tune my bow now that the weather is getting nice and i cant figuire out why when i shoot with field tips its shooting perfect and i screw on a broad head and its all over the target/ i checked the broad heads same wait and nothing else is differt!
i guess what im wondeing is should i just set the bow up for the broad head and quit using the field tips?
im just afraid next season ill blow my big buck shot if something goes wrong!
any ideas please thow them at me!
thanks from michigan!

[Tenpoint]

Well I don't bow hunt myself, but I'm sure some of the folks here will offer you some good advise soon.

Tenpoint

[DocHolladay]

Not all broadheads will fly like your field points. Some just dont do what the manufacturers say they will. You can sight your bow in for your broadheads, but you will only be sighting them in for that broadhead and will have to re-sight it in just to use field points. You will waste money by having to keep replacing your blades as they dull. You will waste time by having to resight based on what you are shooting. Try looking in the post below. I posted a step by step for walk back tuning(use a field point). Once you get it tuned(not sighted in) for your field points you should have to only make some fine tuning adjustments for your BH(use walkback tuning again). If you are using a quality BH you shouldnt have to adjust but just a small amount. If you walk back tune and your BH is still flying all crazy, I would suggest changing BH's.

http://www.deerhuntingchat.com/viewtopic.php?t=3713

[KwackWacker]

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Agreed.

[WTAILHUNTER]

i have been spending some tome trying to fine tune my bow

There could be many things you have going on here so you know.

What size vanes/fletchings you using?

Do the vanes/fletchings line up with the blades of the broadhead?

Are the arrows the correct spine for your draw length and poundage you shoot?

I cant figuire out why when i shoot with field tips its shooting perfect and i screw on a broad head and its all over the target/ i checked the broad heads same wait and nothing else is differt!

I think it has to do with tuning! have you tuned it to shoot a bare shaft?

If so at what distence?

i guess what im wondeing is should i just set the bow up for the broad head and quit using the field tips?

If it's tuned properly you should be able to shoot either at any time!

I can shoot a bare shaft 50 yards with my Ross But the ross is a very tunable bow too not all are.

[DocHolladay]

Do the vanes/fletchings line up with the blades of the broadhead?

This shouldnt matter at all. Aligning the vanes/fletch with the blades is a personal preference and has no effect on how the arrow flies.

I cant figuire out why when i shoot with field tips its shooting perfect and i screw on a broad head and its all over the target/ i checked the broad heads same wait and nothing else is differt!

Not all broadheads perform as well as what the manufacturer says they will. What broadheads are you using?

i guess what im wondeing is should i just set the bow up for the broad head and quit using the field tips?

If it's tuned properly you should be able to shoot either at any time!

I agree with this. I do know that you might have to fine tune the bow to the broadhead, but it shouldnt be that much. If it is drastic, then I would change heads.

[Tony204ing]

If you are shooting the field point fine i would say its more the broadhead than being out of tune.Maybe someone you know has a diffrent kind that you can try before you go wasting money on trial and error broadheads.That can get pretty expansive.

[WTAILHUNTER]

Do the vanes/fletchings line up with the blades of the broadhead?

This shouldnt matter at all. Aligning the vanes/fletch with the blades is a personal preference and has no effect on how the arrow flies.

I agree Doc (if tuned properly) however in my testing, I have found like you said not all broadheads perform as advertised and sometimes can make a difference. The testing I usually do with broadheads is for noise...however we found some heads when lined up with the vanes/fletchings did some crazy things when the bow was not properly tuned, and when we flew the same head not ligned up with the vanes/fletchings it flew a bit better... with the alignment being the only difference. I think you will agree that vanes serv two purposes to write the required hunter(fish & game required info) on and to guide an untuned bows arrow to the target. I mentioned before I can shoot a bare shaft all day at 50 yards with my Ross bow. The vanes/fletchings will compensate for any flaws in tuning(that is why you see many hunters using 4-5 inch vanes/fletchings (wings) on there arrows) not by choice but because they find it's how there arrow flies the best.

Remember lonewolf (a bare shaft hits the target where it's pointed, a fletched arrow hits the target where it's aimed) you must tune your bow to shoot a bare shaft first then paper tune it to find out if the vanes are hitting your rest etc...this is really the only purpose for paper tuning. getting a bare shaft to fly straight should be your first order. All the guys at easton tune there bows to shoot a bare shaft out to a hundred meters(108 yards) of course this is for competition that is why I do it only for 50 yards with my hunting bow(more than enough)

Also you may be able to get around your whole problem if you shoot a mechanical broadhead as well. I'm going to be testing that rage broadhead soon 2 and 3 blade. In my case it's for noise

The only noise from my bow is the arrow on the way to the target. I use a Wac-Em broadhead. A deer can hear and duck an arrow from the noise it makes and I refuse to off set that by having to shoot the bow at over 300fps.

I mentioned it because if his bow is not tuned and it only needs a slight adjustment it could help in my opinion but could also make it worse....

But technically it should not matter like you said.

My 2 Cents...

[Tony204ing]

All of the above makes sense but i think we all can agree on one thing.An out of tune bow is going to shoot a bare shaft out of wack, a broad head out of wack and a field point out of wack.Yes the fletches are going to help but i dont think he would be shooting a perfect field point if he was out of tune.With or without fletches.

[WTAILHUNTER]

All of the above makes sense but i think we all can agree on one thing.An out of tune bow is going to shoot a bare shaft out of wack, a broad head out of wack and a field point out of wack.Yes the fletches are going to help but i dont think he would be shooting a perfect field point if he was out of tune.With or without fletches.

true....true but it remains unknown what lonewolfs def is of perfect flight because lonewolf is the only one not replying to his own post...Lol

We still don't know if he bare shaft tuned it? paper tuned it? these questions need to be answered before we can give another 2 cents...haaa

[KwackWacker]

true....true but it remains unknown what lonewolfs def is of perfect flight because lonewolf is the only one not replying to his own post...Lol

We still don't know if he bare shaft tuned it? paper tuned it? these questions need to be answered before we can give another 2 cents...haaa

Considering this was a dead thread for two months up until monday I would have to guess he either a) fixed the problem and got his bow tuned or b) doesn't read the forum as much as the rest of us bored hunters do.

[Tony204ing]

Considering this was a dead thread for two months up until monday I would have to guess he either a) fixed the problem and got his bow tuned or b) doesn't read the forum as much as the rest of us bored hunters do.

Really. Talk about beating a dead horse.

[DocHolladay]

LOL.... Tony beat me to a reply.

[WTAILHUNTER]

Considering this was a dead thread for two months up until monday I would have to guess he either a) fixed the problem and got his bow tuned or b) doesn't read the forum as much as the rest of us bored hunters do.

Really. Talk about beating a dead horse.

Yup! what a waste of good info...lol :roll:

[Tony204ing]

At least our brains are still working in the off season.

[WTAILHUNTER]

Talk about beating a dead horse

Speaking of which where is that emoticon beating a dead horse? lol

[DocHolladay]

This one????-----------> We dont have it.

[WTAILHUNTER]

This one????-----------> We dont have it.

LMFAO.....

[Tenpoint]

That's some good stuff right there....

Tenpoint

[WTAILHUNTER]

That's some good stuff right there....

Tenpoint

I don't care who you are...

[Tony204ing]

awesome!!!!