What Happen to HUNTING.

[yngbowhntr24]

Maybe im wrong but i thought hunting ment getting out and finding deer. Not finding a field that they come out in every day, or finding wide open woods that they can scan hundreds of yards in a 360 degree field of view. I though it ment doing your homework, finding were theyre moving and then putting your self in a place where you might be close enough to get a shot off. Now we have guys sitting on the edges of fields or on ridges shooting deer 250 300 yards away. Sometimes more. Personally i dont feel like it takes half as much skill to shoot a deer with a rifle with a scope that makes the deer look likes its 2 feet in front of you as it does to get so close you can see their nose hairs and then shoot with a bow and arrow the way the Indians did when they started this hole thing were all so in love with. Now im not saying its wrong its just hard to hear guys brag about the deer they shot from half way across the county.

[Bowhunters]

I couldn't disagree with you more.

Hunting means going out and doing what you enjoy with the weapon of your choice whether you are in a tree stand, ground blind or stalking, etc. as long as you are ethical and follow inside the fish and game laws of your hunting area, state, province, country.

We each do our own thing in our own way but we are all hunters.

I've hunted deer by bow and with firearms for many years and I can tell you even a rifle hunter does his homework and if you think a 300-400-500-600yd shot at a deer, pronghorn, elk, etc. is just squeezing a trigger and is a piece of cake you are sadly mistaken.

Whether its over flat land, slogging through mud, climbing up or down mountains or fighting your way knee deep in snow all types of hunting regardless of the weapon used have their good points and their difficulties.

I might have suspected you have a hate for rifle hunters but I sense you probably just don't have much experience or understand them, I will say in closing that the day some hunters get all high and mighty feeling their own way of hunting is the only right way and that everyone else is wrong or immoral or unjust then the antihunters have already won because that will mean that hunters are seperated and being alienated and that means that hunting will be a dieing sport.

[cjg]

I don't give a crap about hunting with a bow or how anyone else kills their deer. I enjoy hunting with my rifle and enjoy still hunting or taking a track if we have a fresh snow. I've never shot a deer more than 150 yards away and most of them were under 50. I will take a stand if I think it will improve my chances or set up a blind or tree stand if I find a good spot while still hunting.

It is pretty neat that you use a recurve with stone arrowheads like the indians did though, how about a spear, that seems like it would be a real challenge, or tomahawk, maybe they will open up an early spear/tomahawk season. If you get a deer, don't forget to save some of the sinews from the shoulder or back so you can make a new bow string in case you need it and save the brains so you can tan the skin to make your moccasins, you know how those wear out fast running around the woods trying to get close enough to kill a deer with your spear.

Lots of unethical hunters out there, but far be it for me to judge anyone on their methods as long as they are within the limits of the law.

[NYBuckhunter]

Id like to give you a little advice. Dont worry about what others are doing, as long as they are doing it legally, its all good. You may prefer bow hunting, but rifle hunting is no less of a skill, especially when distances get up there over 150. If you think slapping a scope on a rifle and shooting a deer at 250 yards is the way its done, then you havent tried to learn much about it. Learning the way your rifle shoots at long distances with wind as a factor and alot of other things is just about as tough as learning to shoot a bow. It takes alot of time and practice to do it right.

Its just like alot of guys here in NY will give others in states that allow baiting crap. No need for that, honestly, those same guys would most likely be using bait here if it was legal.

We as hunters and outdoorsmen need to start banding together instead of bickering and putting each other down for our personal preferences. If we dont, we are all going to lose out in the end.

[yngbowhntr24]

I wasnt attacking anyone. Just voicing my opinion. As i was expecting others to do. Wasnt expecing to be attacked but hey, i guess thats what these OPEN FORUMs are all about. Sorry if i offendud anyone. And to the guy who wants to be a jerk about the indian comment. Why dont we go hunt a piece of property together you take a bow and ill take a rifle and well see who gets a deer first. Thats all im saying.

[NYBuckhunter]

Your original post was putting down a pretty large segment of hunters. What kind of replies did you expect?

[Bowhunters]

Yng, you are a brand new day old member and one of your very first posts came off as higly negative if not attacking against all rifle hunters.

I know you said you didn't mean it to be an attack but that is how much of it sounded so NY is right in that you shouldn't be shocked if you didn't get the reception or responses that you hoped for by members here.

[cjg]

And to the guy who wants to be a jerk about the indian comment.

You brought up the indians dude I was just assuming you hunted "the way they did" pretty sure they didn't have compounds and carbon arrows.

shoot with a bow and arrow the way the Indians did when they started this hole thing .

Why dont we go hunt a piece of property together you take a bow and ill take a rifle and well see who gets a deer first.

I thought I was gonna get the gun.

You didn't offend me man, it's all good.

[yngbowhntr24]

Ok I like im sure many of you, dont like to do this. But at some point we all have too. Thats admit being wrong. You will never hear me say that its just as hard to hunt with a rifle as it is to hunt with a bow. But i will say that after reading my post a couple times and openly reading some of yours i realize that my original post came off pretty crappy. So again id like to apologize to any of you that i have offended in any way. I was wrong and im mature enough to admit that. I still will hunt with a bow and not a rifle. But i feel like a real jerk for the way i went about leaving the original post. And no i dont hunt like an indian. I have a compound that shoots 325 feet/sec with carbon arrows that in good conditions i can group in a couple inches. I also have a tree stand and scent cover and a grunt call. Indians did not have that. But i must commend you on your education on Indian hunting. You seem to know alot about how they did their thing, and it was pretty funny the way you threw it in my face.

[Brow Tine]

The way I see it I dont care how you take your deer as long as it is legal. The conflict is within yourself...someday you will find a peace.

[cjg]

it was pretty funny the way you threw it in my face.

It's all good Dude

[mainewhitetail]

I have hunted for 30 some years now with a rifle and bow and none of the deer came easy.I find it hard to believe any one that has done any amount of deer hunting would think it was a giving with a rifle. Remember were talking different seasons for bow hunting and gun hunting.early bow season the deer are a little less weary and by gun season they know there being hunted.the day it becomes easy the day i give up hunting! .