WSM

[billy]

Do you think these rounds will last like the 270,3006,308 ,7mm rem., 3030?I wonder if the new WSM rounds here to stay or just a new sales pitch?

[progers]

Looks good! Feels great! Buy em'! Send pics!

[quigleysharps4570]

Sales pitch.

[carnivore]

explain your opinion Quigs., I'm only asking that because I know you know ballistics. and as you know i just got that 7mm short mag and havn't done a whole lot of reading up on it for available loads for me which you already know will most likely be factory loads. what little searching i've done does refer to hand loads. as soon as i get some money right i'll dress it up with a scope, and am looking forward to shooting a 140gr. bullet with the tradjectory the 7mm. is capable of achieving.

[DocHolladay]

i think its a sales pitch to make money, but they could last a while to. from what i read the .270 was in the same boat(sales pitch) and look at it now.

[KwackWacker]

I think they are here for good. I've got a friend who is on the match grade gun business and he tells me they are here to stay. From what I understand, bench shooters really get the benefit of short magnums and super short magnums. Here's the way it was explained to me. I'm using a .270 as an example because that's the way i was told. The .270 has a fairly long shell casing. When the primer is fired it takes a while to burn all the powder through that long shell casing (keep in mind that a while in ballistics terms is measured in less than a thousandth of a second). The bullet is propelled from a fairly long burn of the powder and ,as I'm told, some of the powder burning towards the bullet end of the casing never has a chance to push the bullet because the bullet is already headed down the barrel. With the short magnums and super short magnums the casing is much shorter and the powder can burn all at once. Therefore you get one big push from the gasses rather than a long, slow burn. And all of the powder is used to propell the bullet. The difference comes in velocity and energy. One fast burn makes a bullet go faster and carry more energy than one longer burn. However, I don't think you would notice a heck of a lot of difference in the woods. The guys shooting from a bench don't seem to notice as much of a difference in velocity from shell to shell with the short magnums and super short magnums like they do with traditional loads. (once again, the differences can be very subtle, like 3 to 4 FPS, but this can make a big difference when you measure your groups by minute of angle rather than inches.) I don't think that the new rounds will put our traditional rounds out of business, but I believe they are here to stay.

[quigleysharps4570]

Not much to tell Carnivore...I'm just an old stick in the mud. That is a fine rifle you have and I will look forward to the day you dress it up and I get to shoot it.

[carnivore]

about everything i wish i could do kinda hinges on that oil strike, as soon as it hits we'll have a matched pair. You can bank on it!